PA-D1wrestling.com Forums http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/ This is an XML content feed of; PA-D1wrestling.com Forums : Last 10 Posts Copyright (c) 2006-2008 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:31:19 +0000 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:28:35 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.53 30 forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/RSS_topic_feed.asp PA-D1wrestling.com Forums http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com//images/forum-header.gif http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/ District 1 Discussion : State Bracket Analysis- 145lbs http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1515&PID=18931#18931 Author: East140
Subject: State Bracket Analysis- 145lbs
Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 11:28am

Did anybody see the NE Regional finals on TV and happen to see what happened to Ottinger? I'm just curious, I decided playing video games would be better than watching Krecker and Ottinger...and now I regret it. ]]> Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:28:35 +0000 http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1515&PID=18931#18931 District 1 Discussion : Wrestling in your School http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1504&PID=18930#18930 Author: Fern
Subject: Wrestling in your School
Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 11:26am

The numbers will not translate at first and every school would have to buy in and it would work. I am 100 percent convinced.
 
Numbers participation are the key to growing the sport and having many JV events. Right now look around the area, most schools struggle to get 20 wrestlers in there room. That is the death of this sport. You have to build it from the ground up. JV wrestlers will become fans as well and there parents and they will come to see them wrestle. Here me out.
 
I think LaSalle has it where kids must participate in 1 activity, that is new this year. We had over 40 kids start out and participate in wrestling this year. We had 35 get through the year because I just sent the banquet info out in the mail.  Pretty damn good. Its an increase from the year before. My wife advertised it in the school news about wrestling and that it would fulfill there activity obligation .. If they made it a two activities requirement  I would imagine we would have  50-60  kids participating.
 
Have lots of JV matches before the varsity matches, more people show up. Thats 40 JV kids in the stand , they bring there friend or girl friend and a parent and it really starts to add up and they start learning the sport... It snowballs, not just for sports but for the arts and theater as well.
 
Title 9 and fighting it is a losing battle, a real loser. We should be focused on required after school participation to win the battle and grow the sport. I believe 2 activities required would do it.
 
Show me a wrestling room with 60-80 kids High school wrestlers in the room and I will show you a damn healthy wrestling program with fannies in the stands
]]> Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:26:35 +0000 http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1504&PID=18930#18930 District 1 Discussion : D12 PUBLIC http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1502&PID=18929#18929 Author: neverquit
Subject: D12 PUBLIC
Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 11:26am

Yes, I agree....the Beat the Streets program can help significantly.  I have done a few things for Beat the Streets over the years.  A good friend of mine is the coach at NYU.

Also, heard that Beat the Streets is already in progress in Philly.  If not yet in progress, that is definitely the next big location they are targeting.   

The guy I know works closely with Al Bevilaqua, who is a big wig with the Beat the Streets program. 
]]> Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:26:11 +0000 http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1502&PID=18929#18929 District 1 Discussion : D12 PUBLIC http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1502&PID=18928#18928 Author: gferrell
Subject: D12 PUBLIC
Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 11:14am

Well, the first step to improve PPL wrestling is to start neighborhood youth programs to get these kids interested at a young age. PAL has helped a lot of parochial and public school city kids but there needs to be more of these programs because the best PAL kids have seemingly benefited Frankford and Northeast Catholic but not so much the other programs. Some of the city parochial schools like Roman Catholic have now started their own feeder programs so that they can improve, I spoke with Coach Lane and that is progressing and he seems happy with the results. That's why the "Beat The Streets" program which was successful in New York can and should be implemented here, I'm not sure at all what progress has been currently made to that end. 

Off season wrestling for the kids at the HS level who are wrestling now would also be helpful. More matches during the season too, I couldn't believe some of the PPL wrestlers who qualified for regions have only 12-13 matches all year. They'll never get better wrestling that few matches and only a few of them even bother to venture into the suburbs for stiffer competition. It seems that Overbrook didn't even field a team this year.

One other thing that hurts is that basketball is probably even more dominant in the city than it is in the suburbs. But before we start to worry too much about the city, I'd say let's also try and help some of the AAA D1 programs like Penn Wood. That's basically a city school in the suburbs. They have a state champion basketball team, and a similar population demographic. They have the same academic and discipline issues too. If we can get that program back on it's feet (Dan Madonna is a good guy and solid coach and his efforts are  probably the only thing keeping that program alive) then we'll have a better idea how to help the city. Our AA is barely in better shape than the city schools. I live in Lower Bucks. Every school around here has been producing state qualifiers and more. Why isn't, say, Bristol Boro's team getting similar results at AA? New Hope hasn't done much better and here in Morrisville the school is so small that they dropped their program several years ago. It's great to see Dan Park working hard to bring Lower Moreland out of the morass of indifference that has plagued that program for so long, and he can do it. They beat some AAA SOL schools this year, and if you look at the archives this was once a AAA program that sent kids to states.

Greg
]]> Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:14:31 +0000 http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1502&PID=18928#18928 District 1 Discussion : State Bracket Analysis- 103lbs http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1508&PID=18927#18927 Author: C Mart
Subject: State Bracket Analysis- 103lbs
Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 11:05am

Originally posted by neverquit

CMart,

Schram is VERY good....however, he is a frosh and the spotlight may get to him.  Happens to the best of them sometimes.  He has a ton of big tournament experience though. 

Either way, I am a McQ fan!!  Call me biased.....but McQ can ride his trade-mark to the finals.  He has got to want it though.  When he wrestles like he did last weekend....look out.  I called him an animal all weekend....finally he says to me: 

"You keep calling me an animal"
I reply...."you are an animal; you're a beast, keep doing what you are doing!!"

Then I say to him:  "Cory, if you were an animal.....what would you be???"
His reply......drum roll please............
"A SQUIRREL!!!!"

I thought that was pretty funny
weird  
Only saw Schram once this year against  an under skilled wrestler but have heard strong comments on him. lol (SQUIRRELL) McQ Great kid I hear,  and I wish him the best!  I wish your wrestlers good fortune this week(end) as well.   Go get em!!!!      ]]> Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:05:48 +0000 http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1508&PID=18927#18927 District 1 Discussion : State Bracket Analysis- 103lbs http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1508&PID=18926#18926 Author: neverquit
Subject: State Bracket Analysis- 103lbs
Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 10:57am

CMart,

Schram is VERY good....however, he is a frosh and the spotlight may get to him.  Happens to the best of them sometimes.  He has a ton of big tournament experience though. 

Either way, I am a McQ fan!!  Call me biased.....but McQ can ride his trade-mark to the finals.  He has got to want it though.  When he wrestles like he did last weekend....look out.  I called him an animal all weekend....finally he says to me: 

"You keep calling me an animal"
I reply...."you are an animal; you're a beast, keep doing what you are doing!!"

Then I say to him:  "Cory, if you were an animal.....what would you be???"
His reply......drum roll please............
"A SQUIRREL!!!!"

I thought that was pretty funny
weird  


Edited by neverquit - Today at 10:58am]]> Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:57:44 +0000 http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1508&PID=18926#18926 District 1 Discussion : AA and AAA not AA vs AAA http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1526&PID=18925#18925 Author: DSSR
Subject: AA and AAA not AA vs AAA
Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 10:52am

 
The PIAA uses AA and AAA to classify schools by NUMBERS of athletes not by TALENT! The greater the number of athletes in a particular classification might result in a greater number of good athletes/wrestlers, but not always. Blanket statements claiming superiority from either side AA or AAA is just a lot of nothing. Depth of talent can be greater with greater numbers but that can change year to year. I have watched both AA and AAA wrestling in Hershey and the BEST PIAA State Tournament would include ALL schools in PA regardless of AA or AAA. It’s an individual tournament why the division?
]]> Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:52:31 +0000 http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1526&PID=18925#18925 District 1 Discussion : Regional Recap- Your Thoughts? http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1485&PID=18924#18924 Author: gferrell
Subject: Regional Recap- Your Thoughts?
Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 10:42am

Just to put Ehlo's accomplishment into further perspective, I though I'd revisit the 2008 frosh preview and the 2009 nominees list and see how everyone did or did not progress- first to the nominees.

103- Corey McQuiston improves from 4th at regions to winning regions. Our first multiple state qualifier from this group and a strong candidate to win a medal.
112- Brandon Arnsberger goes from 6th at AA regions to a state qualifier
119- Rob Galdo goes from AA district to AA regional qualifier
125- Jon Neiman goes from not placing out of sections (giving up too much weight) to a regional placewinner (5th)
130- Seth Ehlo goes from district to state qualifier
135- Wayne Armstrong qualifies for regions again.
145- Chris Jastrzebski had injury issues all year and did not wrestle much.
152- Tim Wade transferred from C.B South to LaSalle, did not wrestle this year, primarily a football player.
160- Larry Gordon broke his hip playing football prior to this season, and missed most of it.
189- Eric Bonenberger wrestled from the holiday tourneys until 1/23 and stopped. Did not compete in the postseason.


Here's some more names from the the original preview list that didn't make the freshman team-

- Billy Rappo goes from not making it out of sections to state qualifier
- Tim Riley goes from 5th at districts to state qualifier
- Mack Moore has another injury-plagued year, at least he got some mat time in this year
- Kyle Loeb does not return to regions and does not place at districts due largely to giving up too much weight
- Fred Alderman finishes the same, 6th at districts
- Tyler Edwards transferred to Wyoming Seminary
- Jesse Quave goes from not placing at sections to 6th in district
- Scott Seidenberger goes from not placing at sections to district qualifier
- Dalton Fleming goes from not placing at sections to 5th at districts
- Charlie Grab makes regions again
- Jim Long goes from not competing in the postseason to 6th at regions.

Some very nice progress from many. I'm sure we'll see more of these names also qualifying for states in the next 2 seasons.

Greg

]]> Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:42:02 +0000 http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1485&PID=18924#18924 District 1 Discussion : State Brackets- Final Analysis And Medal Totals http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1522&PID=18923#18923 Author: dicemen99
Subject: State Brackets- Final Analysis And Medal Totals
Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 10:38am

Originally posted by Holtjack

Is it just me or does it seem more than coincidence that six AAA Southeast Region wrestlers get returning state champs in the first round? And two others get 2009 runnerups? How many returning AAA state champs and runnerups are there? Sounds like a real need to seed the regional champs (my method would be to use the previous years' prestige points, since wins and losses don't mean much at the state level).

  I would think that because we have the 4th qualifier, which is the only qualifier that is guaranteed to see a regional champ in the first round, plus we have a 3rd qualifier like everyone else which likely sees a regional champ in the first round AND we can't get our own regional champ in the first round (of which only one is either a returning champ or runnerup) it greatly increases the likelihood that our guys are seeing the returning champs and runnerups.

Scenario:

Returning champ from SC.  Our 3rd and 4th get regional champs in that bracket.  The SC 3rd can't see the returning champ.  We have 2 chances out of 4 to see the champ.  If the runnerup is also there and we have a 75% chance that one of our guys gets either the champ or the runnerup and a 25% chance that we get both.
]]> Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:38:05 +0000 http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1522&PID=18923#18923 District 1 Discussion : State Bracket Analysis- 145lbs http://forums.pa-d1wrestling.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1515&PID=18922#18922 Author: gferrell
Subject: State Bracket Analysis- 145lbs
Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 10:31am

I believe that the NE3 Miller will move up to replace Ottinger in the NE2 spot and that the NE4 Ty Lauchaire of Stroudsburg will now be the NE3 in Miller's spot. Sorry to be a homer, but this withdrawal can only help T.J and the SE region improve our chances to place someone at this weight.

Greg 
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